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		<title>Comment on How to Save Volvo by John</title>
		<link>http://idealink.vijtable.com/2009/02/25/how-to-save-volvo/#comment-1569</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for writing this article.

The Chinese could certainly use this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for writing this article.</p>
<p>The Chinese could certainly use this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by Greg</title>
		<link>http://idealink.vijtable.com/2009/07/17/associated-press-its-okay-if-we-do-it/#comment-1567</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, cool... I must&#039;ve been unduly and subconsciously influenced by other people&#039;s use of the word &quot;plagiarism&quot; (eg. the linkbacks).

Cheers!
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, cool&#8230; I must&#8217;ve been unduly and subconsciously influenced by other people&#8217;s use of the word &#8220;plagiarism&#8221; (eg. the linkbacks).</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by vijtable</title>
		<link>http://idealink.vijtable.com/2009/07/17/associated-press-its-okay-if-we-do-it/#comment-1566</link>
		<dc:creator>vijtable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, all for the comments. A couple responses...

@ Jeff: I&#039;m not an expert on what &#039;compatible license&quot; means, so I&#039;ll trust you on this one. The credit thing is still a problem, though.

@ Greg: Three things...

1) Maybe you&#039;re right, and it was simply a matter of an idea that really can&#039;t get across in many ways. However, word choice plus sentence structure are fishy to me. &quot;Completed in&quot; and &quot;bring(ing) it closer&quot; are two red flags because they are consistent style choices that reflect voice, not content.

2) You were able to construct a pair of sentences which I wouldn&#039;t think twice about. In fact, you didn&#039;t use those two key pieces which raised my hackles :)

Here&#039;s my go: &quot;Unlike &#039;traditional&#039; cricket, Twenty20 takes only about 3.5 hours to play - similar in length to baseball, football, and other US sports.&quot;

The point is the same, and even some of the words are the same, but I&#039;m actually synthesizing and providing my own voice.

3) Finally, and most importantly, I never claimed that this was plagiarism. I said that they &quot;cribbed&quot; (e.g., cheated a little), implying that they are not playing by their own rules with regards to fair use. And now I&#039;m saying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, all for the comments. A couple responses&#8230;</p>
<p>@ Jeff: I&#8217;m not an expert on what &#8216;compatible license&#8221; means, so I&#8217;ll trust you on this one. The credit thing is still a problem, though.</p>
<p>@ Greg: Three things&#8230;</p>
<p>1) Maybe you&#8217;re right, and it was simply a matter of an idea that really can&#8217;t get across in many ways. However, word choice plus sentence structure are fishy to me. &#8220;Completed in&#8221; and &#8220;bring(ing) it closer&#8221; are two red flags because they are consistent style choices that reflect voice, not content.</p>
<p>2) You were able to construct a pair of sentences which I wouldn&#8217;t think twice about. In fact, you didn&#8217;t use those two key pieces which raised my hackles :)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my go: &#8220;Unlike &#8216;traditional&#8217; cricket, Twenty20 takes only about 3.5 hours to play &#8211; similar in length to baseball, football, and other US sports.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point is the same, and even some of the words are the same, but I&#8217;m actually synthesizing and providing my own voice.</p>
<p>3) Finally, and most importantly, I never claimed that this was plagiarism. I said that they &#8220;cribbed&#8221; (e.g., cheated a little), implying that they are not playing by their own rules with regards to fair use. And now I&#8217;m saying it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call bs on this one.

There are few ways to state the definition of Twenty20 in two sentences or less. Inevitably, any attempt will sound similar. Here, let me give it a try:

&quot;Twenty20 is a version of cricket which takes about 3.5 hours to play. This is a similar timespan to other American sports.&quot;

It&#039;s pretty tricky... you could go with something like, &quot;This shorter timespan is easier to digest for American sports fans,&quot; but now you&#039;re changing the meaning... You&#039;re stating the conclusion instead of letting the reader draw that conclusion, which is different rhetoric and different meaning altogether.

It&#039;s not plagiarism. A substantially larger selection would need to have been &quot;rewritten&quot; in order to make that case. 2 structurally basic sentences doesn&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call bs on this one.</p>
<p>There are few ways to state the definition of Twenty20 in two sentences or less. Inevitably, any attempt will sound similar. Here, let me give it a try:</p>
<p>&#8220;Twenty20 is a version of cricket which takes about 3.5 hours to play. This is a similar timespan to other American sports.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty tricky&#8230; you could go with something like, &#8220;This shorter timespan is easier to digest for American sports fans,&#8221; but now you&#8217;re changing the meaning&#8230; You&#8217;re stating the conclusion instead of letting the reader draw that conclusion, which is different rhetoric and different meaning altogether.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not plagiarism. A substantially larger selection would need to have been &#8220;rewritten&#8221; in order to make that case. 2 structurally basic sentences doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by Jeff Nixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP&#039;s license does not have to be compatible with Wikipedia&#039;s.  Any reuser can have a more restrictive license, so long as they follow the proper process for crediting Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP&#8217;s license does not have to be compatible with Wikipedia&#8217;s.  Any reuser can have a more restrictive license, so long as they follow the proper process for crediting Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by David Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have suggested that WMF should ask AP for a donation this year ...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by Links 19/07/2009: New Ubuntu CE, Red Hat at S&#38;P 500 &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 19/07/2009: New Ubuntu CE, Red Hat at S&#38;P 500 &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Associated Press: “It’s Okay If WE Do It.” This could have been an enthusiastic Wikipedia editor, so I checked the history page of the article, which tracks every change. It turns out that Wikipedia had it first. Here is a link to the 10 July 2009 version of the article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Associated Press: “It’s Okay If WE Do It.” This could have been an enthusiastic Wikipedia editor, so I checked the history page of the article, which tracks every change. It turns out that Wikipedia had it first. Here is a link to the 10 July 2009 version of the article. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by AP plagiarizes Wikipedia &#187; Ad Terras Per Aspera</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP plagiarizes Wikipedia &#187; Ad Terras Per Aspera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AP plagiarizes Wikipedia  Permalink [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Associated Press: &#8220;It&#8217;s Okay If WE Do It.&#8221; by Patrick McFarland (diablod3) 's status on Saturday, 18-Jul-09 10:42:49 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McFarland (diablod3) 's status on Saturday, 18-Jul-09 10:42:49 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Classroom Best Practices: Scare &#8216;Em with Damnation by Sammy Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kewl site man...&lt;/strong&gt;

keep up the good work man.......</description>
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<p>keep up the good work man&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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